Earlier this week was the first 2016 Presidential Debate, featuring “The Lady in Red” Hillary Clinton and the “Asshole of Orange” Donald J Trump (by the way, how come Trump got introduced with a middle initial, and Hillary didn’t? just wondering).
Now because this was a long debate, its going to take multiple blogs to cover this…..But to make it more fun it will be following the format I used with the last few GOP debate, a fake award show, so here we go with the first part of the 1st 2016 Presidential Debate Awards.
First we start early on in the debate with
The “mean girl” trying to make “fetch” happen award:
This award goes to Hillary Clinton for her multiple attempts to try to introduce a new catch phrase: Trumped up trickle down.
The first reference to this was early on in the debate, when Clinton said
“We also, though, need to have a tax system that rewards work and not just financial transactions. And the kind of plan that Donald has put forth would be trickle-down economics all over again. In fact, it would be the most extreme version, the biggest tax cuts for the top percent of the people in this country than we've ever had.
I call it trumped-up trickle-down, because that's exactly what it would be. That is not how we grow the economy.”
Then again about 10 minutes later:
“$4 billion tax benefit for your family. And when you look at what you are proposing...
TRUMP: How much? How much for my family?
CLINTON: ... it is...
TRUMP: Lester, how much?
CLINTON: ... as I said, trumped-up trickle-down. Trickle-down did not work. It got us into the mess we were in, in 2008 and 2009. Slashing taxes on the wealthy hasn't worked.”
Thing is, Trumped up trickle down is neither catchy, funny, short, or rolls off the tongue. So lets hope Hillary stops trying to make it happen.
Then the “I’m and oxymoron award”
And Donald Trump gets on the board with his first award.
When asked about his plan to grow jobs Donald Trump said this:
So Ford is leaving. You see that, their small car division leaving. Thousands of jobs leaving Michigan, leaving Ohio. They're all leaving. And we can't allow it to happen anymore. […] We cannot let [businesses leaving the country] happen. Under my plan, I'll be reducing taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for companies, small and big businesses. That's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan. It's going to be a beautiful thing to watch.
Then later he said this:
“Well, the first thing you do is don't let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They're leaving, and they're leaving in bigger numbers than ever.
And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you're going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you're wrong.”
Now heres the issue, and we can even use Trump’s example of Ford. When Ford moves their manufacturing to Mexico, they will still be headquartered in the United States. Meaning under Trump’s plan their taxes will go down significantly as they are an American company.
But by manufacturing in Mexico, Ford’s taxes should go up significantly under Trump’s plan because they are making things in Mexico and bringing them back here.
So yea, which is it? Are business taxes going up or down under Trump?
Next up, another award to Trump, this time the
“I see you riding round time with the girl I love and I’m like FUCK YOU!” award
This award comes from the following exchange
“Clinton: […]In fact, Donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis. He said, back in 2006, "Gee, I hope it does collapse, because then I can go in and buy some and make some money." Well, it did collapse.
TRUMP: That's called business, by the way.”
Making money on your getting fucked, that’s good business to Trump. Makes you wonder if he has a chance to make money as president but fuck you over as a result, will he take it?
I don’t know but I’m pretty sure his new campaign slogan is “Fuck you, make money”
The Award:
And it’s Trump with a threepeate as he again interrupts Clinton.
Clinton: Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.
TRUMP: I did not. I did not. I do not say that.
CLINTON: I think science is real.
TRUMP: I do not say that.”
Now for the record, he did say that [insert tweet], beyond that the clip in the award name sums up exactly how I think Trump came off in this bit.
And in the
Award.This one happened to many people immediately following this exchange:
“CLINTON: So we have taken the home page of my website, HillaryClinton.com, and we've turned it into a fact-checker. So if you want to see in real-time what the facts are, please go and take a look. Because what I have proposed...
TRUMP: And take a look at mine, also, and you'll see.”
Well it turns out, a lot of people did that.
And well only one of the candidates websites was up to the task, and people suddenly noticed that Donald Trump’s website had crashed….in fact it had crashed when the debate started, just from that traffic, let alone when Donald directed people too it.
Speaking of directing people to websites, this was not the only time this happened, which brings up to our
“Shilling for the opponent” award:
And like the last one, this one also goes to Trump, who in the very next exchange/question said:
“TRUMP: And look at her website. You know what? It's no difference than this. She's telling us how to fight ISIS. Just go to her website. She tells you how to fight ISIS on her website. “
Yep, that’s right, Donald Trump is actively encouraging you to go look as his opponents plan and see how good it is.
And he really really really wants you to do it, as nearly an hour later at the end of the debate, he comes back to it.
“Trump : I will go very quickly. But I will tell you that Hillary will tell you to go to her website and read all about how to defeat ISIS, which she could have defeated by never having it, you know, get going in the first place.”
So yea, why are you still reading this blog? GO READ HILLARY CLINTONS ISIS PLAN……..Even Donald Trump wants you to do it.
Clinton by the way openly mocked Trump after his first request to read her plan which leads directly into our next award:
“Let’s do the time warp again” Award:
CLINTON: Well, at least I have a plan to fight ISIS.
HOLT: ... achieving prosperity...
TRUMP: No, no, you're telling the enemy everything you want to do.
CLINTON: No, we're not. No, we're not.
TRUMP: See, you're telling the enemy everything you want to do. No wonder you've been fighting -- no wonder you've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life.”
Hillary Clinton is 68 years old. ISIS was founded in 2013/2014. So unless ISIS has a time machine we don’t know about, its basically impossible for ANYONE over the age of 20 to have been fighting ISIS their entire adult life.
Seriously of all the things Trump said, this may actually have been the easiest to disprove and the single most laughable claim of the debate.
This as you may have noticed if you watched the debate live was kinda the start of Trump going off the rails for the remainder of the debate.
Which brings up the next award.
The “Whiplash” award
So of course, Donald Trump was asked about his taxes and why he wont release them….and at first he stuck to his usual answer.
TRUMP: I don't mind releasing -- I'm under a routine audit. And it'll be released. And -- as soon as the audit's finished, it will be released.
Minutes later however, when pressed on the issue, things changed a bit
“I will say this. We have a situation in this country that has to be taken care of. I will release my tax returns -- against my lawyer's wishes -- when she releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted. As soon as she releases them, I will release.”
So he cant release them cause of the audit…..until he can release them under audit and doesn’t want to…..any chance we can get some clarification on this Mr. trump?
Trump: Almost every lawyer says, you don't release your returns until the audit's complete. When the audit's complete, I'll do it. But I would go against them if she releases her e-mails.
So you can and cant release because of the audit, but you will and wont anyways? Thanks for clearing that up.
Incidentally between the first and second incident of whiplash here, Trump said something even worse
The “why bother not to incriminate yourself” award:
Ok so after mentioning his audit, Trump tries to go on to defend why he’s being audited…..and fails FREAKING MISERABLY.
“Trump: Well, I told you, I will release them as soon as the audit. Look, I've been under audit almost for 15 years. I know a lot of wealthy people that have never been audited. I said, do you get audited? I get audited almost every year.
And in a way, I should be complaining. I'm not even complaining. I don't mind it. It's almost become a way of life. I get audited by the IRS. But other people don't.”
So yea there is definitely something suspicious in Donald Trump’s tax returns……after all even rich people don’t get audited for 15 straight years as Trump says.
The question is really WHAT is in Trumps returns, is it that “he's not as rich as he says he is” or “maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be.” And of course “we don't know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks. Or maybe he doesn't want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes.”
Its your pick which you believe….or all of them, or something else….take your pick. (and yes all the quoted parts are from Hillary Clinton after Trump said it)
And now for the biggest moment of the debate:
The “Craigslist Missed Connection” award
And this award is presented to Donald Trump. Since the debate ended Trump has been saying the debate was biased because he was never asked about Hillary’s emails. Except he was….he just neglected to answer the question.
“HOLT: He also -- he also raised the issue of your e-mails. Do you want to respond to that?
CLINTON: I do. You know, I made a mistake using a private e- mail.
TRUMP: That's for sure.
CLINTON: And if I had to do it over again, I would, obviously, do it differently. But I'm not going to make any excuses. It was a mistake, and I take responsibility for that.
HOLT: Mr. Trump?
TRUMP: That was more than a mistake. That was done purposely. OK? That was not a mistake. That was done purposely. When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth so they're not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it's disgraceful. And believe me, this country thinks it's -- really thinks it's disgraceful, also.
As far as my tax returns, you don't learn that much from tax returns. That I can tell you. You learn a lot from financial disclosure. And you should go down and take a look at that.
The other thing, I'm extremely underleveraged. The report that said $650 -- which, by the way, a lot of friends of mine that know my business say, boy, that's really not a lot of money. It's not a lot of money relative to what I had.
The buildings that were in question, they said in the same report, which was -- actually, it wasn't even a bad story, to be honest with you, but the buildings are worth $3.9 billion. And the $650 isn't even on that. But it's not $650. It's much less than that. […]
To be honest this answer continues in a similar vein for many many more paragraphs….because it’s the inherent problem of Trump, no insult can go unanswered…..even at the cost of all else.
Now it should be noted, if there was a turning point in the debate. Up until now, to be honest Trump took some hits, and Clinton took some hits. However after this point…..the bottom fell out on Trump and he started taking shot after shot after shot……..so given the change in tone, this seems to be the best place to wrap up part 1 of this debate review.
Part 2 is already up and written and can be found here
No comments:
Post a Comment