The Second 2016 Presidential Debate Awards

So this is the second installment of the 2016 Presidential debate awards….and this time around its going to be a much smaller “show” mostly because this debate was not the flat out meltdown the last one was. Plus the fact that both candidates dodged most of the questions doesn’t give me much to work with…..and I need good zingers or moments to make this work.

Still, I do have a bit to work with, so here we go, once again the Awards are in the order the events happened at the debate.



We start with:

The “Casual racism” award


This happened in what was basically Trump’s opening remarks, right at the end when he said:

“But I want to do things that haven’t been done, including fixing and making our inner cities better for the African-American citizens that are so great and for the Latinos, Hispanics, and I looking forward to doing- It’s called make America great again.”

Cause, as we all know, only minorities live in the inner cities….in fact the two words are interchangeable, See later one Trump said this:

“Hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country which are a disaster education-wise, job-wise, safety-wise, in every way possible. I’m going to help the African-Americans, I’m going to help the Latinos, Hispanics. I am going to help the inner cities. She has done a terrible job for the African-Americans.”

Later, he did it again:

"I would be a president for all of the people. African-Americans, the inner cities. Devastating what's happening to our inner cities. She’s been talking about for years. As usual, she talks about it, nothing happens. She doesn't get it done. Same with the Latino Americans. The Hispanic Americans. The same exact thing. They talk. They don't get it done. You go into the inner cities, it's 45% poverty. African-Americans now 45% poverty in the inner cities.”


The “Blame Canada” award.


So if you’ve ever seen the south park movie, you probably know that all violence and inappropriate are


Canada’s fault. The same idea is true for Trump….the fact he said he sexually assaults women is actually


ISIS’ fault:


“But this is locker room talk. You know, when we have a world where you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have them, frankly, drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over and you have so many bad things happening, this is like medieval times. We haven’t seen anything likes this. The carnage all over the world and they look and they see, can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us with ISIS and they look at our country and see what's going on. Yes, I am very embarrassed by it and I hate it, but it's locker room talk and it’s one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS. We are going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. And I will tell you, I will take care of ISIS. We need to get on to much more important and bigger things.”
Or maybe instead of being ISIS’s fault it was all Bill Clintons fault:

“That was locker room talk. I'm not proud of it. I am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country and certainly I am not proud of it, but that was something that happened. If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse. Mine are words and his was action. His words, what he has done to women. There’s never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that has been so abusive to women. So you can say any way you want to say it, but Bill Clinton is abusive to women.”

And from there we move on to what a lot of people consider the most shocking moment of the debate:

The “Seig Heil” award.

This is for all those moments in which Donald Trump promised to imprison his political rivals if elected:

“But if I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. Because there has never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been anything like it. And we’re gonna have a special prosecutor. When I speak, I go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. In my opinion, the people that have been long time workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been anything like this where e-mails, and you get a subpoena. You get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 e-mails and then you acid wash them or bleach them, as you would say. Very expensive process. So we’re gonna get a special prosecutor and we’re gonna look into it. Because you know what, people have been -- their lives have been destroyed for doing 1/5 of what you have done. And it’s a disgrace, and honestly, you oughta be ashamed of.

[…]

Clinton: Everything he just said is absolutely false, but I’m not surprised. In the first debate, I told people it would be impossible to be fact checking Donald all the time. I would never get to talk about anything I’d want to do and how we’re really, going to really, make lives better for people. So once again, go to Hillaryclinton.com. We have literally Trump - you can fact check him in real time. Last time at the first debate ,we had millions of people fact checking so I expect we will have millions more fact checking because, you know, it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.


Trump: Because you would be in jail.”Because jailing political rivals is totally something we do in democracies......and not you know other kinds of unspecified forms of government...

The “WHAT? HUH?” award

Now as you may recall, in the last debate there was this moment where Donald Trump seemed to forget what was going on…….well it happened again.

So here’s a question directed at Hillary Clinton

“Raddatz: And Secretary Clinton, I do want to follow-up on e-mails. You’ve said your handling of your e-mails was a mistake, you’ve disagreed with the FBI Director James Comey calling your handling of classified information “extremely careless”. The FBI said there were 110 classified e-mails which were exchanged, eight of which were top secret and it was possible hostile actors did gain access to those e-mails. You don't call that extremely careless?”

Now after Clinton replies, Trump replies….and then this happens:

“Anderson: We have a question here from Ken Karpowitz, it’s a question about health care.


Trump: I’d liked to know Anderson, Why aren't you bringing up the e-mails? I’d like to know.”
You know….the Email’s Trump literally JUST finished talking about…….unless he forgot already.

And by the way, this exchange kept going….

“Cooper: We brought up the e-mails.


Trump: No it hasn’t, it hasn’t and it hasn't been finished at all.


Cooper: Ken Karpowitz has a question.


Trump: One on three.”

So yea……not only does Trump apparently not remember the last question, any attempt to remind him results in him feeling victimized.

The “Say my name, say my name” award.

This goes to Donald Trump…..but to be honest it really should go to the entire republican party,

For a while now, Republicans have been pushing a rather insane notion that the words “radical Islamic terrorist” have some kind of magical powers….and that just saying them produces tangible results irregardless of any other actions.

Yet, every single time Republicans try to promote this idea, they say some of the most evasive sentences ever. For example as happened in the debate:

“To solve a problem you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least, say the name. She won't say the name and President Obama won't say the name. But the name is there. It's radical Islamic terror. And before you solve it, you have to say the name.”

See, under the very argument this sentence is supposed to pushing, every single instance of “the name” should be replaced with “radical islam” or “radical Islamic terror”

If saying “radical Islam” actually does make you tough and manly as the GOP claims, how come Trump didn’t say:

“To solve a problem you have to be able to state what the problem is, and the problem is radical Islamic terror. She won't say its radical Islamic terroism, and President Obama won't say radical Islamic terrorism. But it's radical Islamic terror. And if you cant call it radical Islamic terror, you cant fix.”


And while its true Trump is not exactly articulate……you can level this same issue and rewrite to pretty much any republican who tries to make this same point, and its pretty funny watching their own argument undercut itself.


Next up, we have a throwback to a popular 90’s tv show….

The “ITS MORPHING TIME!” award.

Again, like all the other awards, this one goes to Donald Trump, when asked about his Muslim ban


“Trump:[…] The Muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into an extreme vetting from certain areas of the world. Hillary Clinton wants to allow --


Raddatz: Why did it morph into that. No answer the question. Would you please explain whether or not the Muslim ban still stands?


Trump: It is called extreme vetting. We are going to areas like Syria where they are coming in by the tens of thousands because of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wants wants to allow a 550% increase over Obama. People are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are, where they are from, what their feelings about our country is and she wants 550% more[…]“


I like how Trump makes it seem like the whole Muslim ban is sentient and may have changed on its own. Its now a completely independent organism that doesn’t answer to anyone.


Now of course we all know the real reason it “morphed”, is because Trump thinks “extreme vetting” sounds less racist, and he is trying to play to the non-white hood wearing crowd.

But hey, at least the one thing we can all be sure of….Donald Trump is totally running on White Ranger power…..

“If it looks like bullshit and smells like Bullshit….” Award.

This one actually goes to Hillary Clinton for this exchange:

Raddatz: Thank you Mr. Trump. I want to move on. This next question comes from the public through the bipartisan open debate coalition’s online forum where Americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. This question involves WikiLeaks’ release of purported excerpts of Secretary Clinton’s paid speeches speeches, which she has refused to release. In one line in particular, in which you Secretary Clinton purportedly say, ‘You need both a public and private position on certain issues.’ So, two from Virginia asks: ‘is it okay for politicians to be two-faced? Is it acceptable for a politician to have have a private stance on issues?’ Secretary Clinton? Two minutes.

Clinton: Right. As I recall, that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln after having seen the wonderful Steven Spielberg movie called Lincoln. It was a master class watching president Lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. It was principled and it was strategic and I was making the point that it is hard, sometimes, to get the congress to do what you want to do. And you have to keep working at it and yes, president Lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people, he used other arguments. That was a great, I thought, a great display of presidential leadership.”


Ok…you know I never thought I’d say this…but I’m going to let Donald Trump handle this one:

“Trump: I think I should respond because, so ridiculous. Look, now she is blaming -- she got caught in a total lie. Her papers went out to all her friends at the banks, Goldman Sachs and everybody else. And she said things, WikiLeaks, that just came out. And she lied. Now she’s blaming the lie on the late great Abraham Lincoln. That’s when-okay, Honest Abe never lied. That’s the good thing.”

Yea…seriously that was one of the WORST and most awkard attempted deflection jobs I’ve seen any candidate do….”I don’t want to discuss my comments so lets talk about something kinda related…in this case, the history of another kinda sorta but not really related comment. And then she couldn’t even find anything currently relevant so instead she tried to explain a 150 year old joke……and didn’t even do that right *cringe*


The “WATDAFUQHESAY?” award.

This one goes to Donald Trump, later on in the same bit I actually credited him for in the last award:

“Maybe there is no hacking, but there is - now Russia - and the reason they blame Russia is they think they’re trying to tarnish me with Russia. I know nothing about Russia - I know about Russia, but I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia. I don’t deal there, I have no businesses there, I have no loans from Russia. I have a very very great balance sheet. So great that when I did the old post office, on Pennsylvania Avenue, the United States government because of my balance sheet, which they actually know very well, chose me to do the old post office between the White House and Congress. They chose me to do the old post office - one of the primary things, in fact, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. But I have no loans with Russia. You could go to the United States government and they would probably tell you that because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development, I had to have - now the taxes are a very simple thing. As soon as I have - first of all, I pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes.”

Lets break this down bit by bit….first there is no hacking…..except that there is.

Second, Trump doesn’t know anything about Russia, except he does, except he doesn’t.

Third there is some kind of correlation between the post office building and Trumps balance sheet….or maybe its 4 or 5 correlations, I’m not sure, I think the Trumpbot 5000 actually malfunctioned there and got caught in a programming loop.

Lastly, Trump totally has no business ties with Russia, and you ask the government if you don’t believe him….because after 15 years of audits they know his business’ really well…..I mean of course Donald Trump COULD always release his own tax returns….but presumably there are worse things than “paid no taxes” hidden in there….

next,

The“digging deeper just to throw it away” award:

Once again, this goes to Donald Trump for his taxes…..

“Cooper: Can you say how many years you have avoided paying personal federal income taxes?

Trump: No. but I pay tax and I pay federal tax too. But I have a write off, a lot of it is depreciation, which is a wonderful charge. I love depreciation.[…]”

So, yea we know its at LEAST 20 years….but Trump totally wont give a number…..meaning its probably much much much more than 20 years (which makes sense given the other 5 bankruptcies he had, if they worked the same way, probably extended that period from 20 years to “the rest of his natural life, and the first few decades of his unlife should he come back as a zombie”

The” Underneath the Bus” award.

This one, technically goes to Mike Pence for winding up underneath the bus his running mate threw him under with this exchange:

Raddatz: Mr. Trump, let me repeat the question. If you were president, what would you do about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo, and I want to remind you what your running mate said. He said provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength and that if Russia continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the Syrian government forces of Assad, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the Assad regime.


Trump: Okay. He and I haven't spoken, and I disagree.


Raddatz: You disagree with your running mate?


Trump: I disagree.

Translation: Fuck that guy……you think id actually have a coherent and consistent policy position? Hell I barely even know the man, totally don’t talk to him at all…..and hell given that he said his bit a week ago in the VP debate, and we still arnt on the same page, I basically pay no attention to that guy either.

And now the

 award

And Trump picks up another one, after asking a question….and getting an answer in his debate

“Trump: […] Why do they have to say we are going to be attacking Mosul within the next four to six weeks, which is what they’re saying. How stupid is our country?


Raddatz: There are sometimes reasons the military does that. Psychological warfare.


Trump: I can't think of any.


Raddatz: It might be to get civilians out.


Trump: I can't think of any. […]


Raddatz gave Trump not 1 but 2 answers as to why the Military might warn people…despite that Trump still cant think of an answer.

“its 3am I must be lonely” award.

And Trump racks up another one with his attempted defense and deflection of a 3am tweet telling people to look at a non-existent sex tap.

“Cooper: Mr. Trump, let me follow-up with you. In 2008, you wrote in one of your books that the most important characteristic of a good leader is discipline. You said if a leader doesn't have it, quote he or she won't be one for long. In the days after the first debate, you sent out a series of tweets from 3:00 A.M. To 5:00 A.M. including one that told people to check out a sex tape. Is that the kind of discipline...


Trump: No it wasn't check out a sex tape. It was take a look at this person she build up to be this wonderful, uh, girl scout, who was no girl scout.


Cooper: You mentioned ‘‘sex tape.’


Trump: Just so you understand: When she said 3 o’clock in the morning, take a look at Benghazi. She said who is going to answer the call at 3 o’clock in the morning, guess what? She didn't answer. Because when ambassador Stevens -- she said she was awake of at 3:00 in the morning. And she also sent a tweet out at 3 o’clock in the morning, but I won’t mention that. But he said she will be awake, the famous thing ‘we’re going to answer the call at 3:00 in the morning”

So again, he didn’t say sex tape (even though the tweet specifies sex tape) and its all Hillary’s fault that anyone even cares what anyone does at 3am……or something.  (hey cut me a break this is hard when one of the people talking doesnt use complete sentences)

The “George W. Bush Good Grammatically Skills” award

And again the winner is Donald Trump for making up a word, even later in his tweet defense.

“Between Facebook and Twitter, I have 25 million people. It's a very effective way of communication. So you can put it down, but it's an effective form of communication. I'm not unproud of it to be honest with you.”

I’m unnonperplexed as to what it means to be “unproud”. I suppose someone whos slightly less unstupid might have said ashamed….but that’s a guess at best based on the other context clues. Not to mention, Pride and Shame are opposites but there is a middle ground, I mean if your unpround and unashamed, you basically don’t give a fuck…..so maybe Trumps just saying he doesn’t give a fuck about it to be honest with you…….

And it wouldn’t be a Donald Trump presidential debate without our next award the

“Confused Word Salad” award

As you might have guessed from the lead-in, Donald Trump gets this one, for not being able to accept a compliment of all things.

First the question: “My question to both of you is, regardless of the current rhetoric, would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in one another?”

Then Hillary Clinton’s answer:

: Well, I certainly will, because I think that's a very fair and important question. Well, I respect his children. His children are incredibly able and devoted and I think that says a lot about Donald. I don't agree with nearly anything else he says or does, but I do respect that and think that is something that as a mother and a grandmother is very important to me."

And now the confusing word salad of Donald Trump:

“Well, I consider her statement about my children to be a very nice compliment. I don't know if it was meant to be a compliment, but it is a great... I'm proud of my children. They have done a wonderful job and they have been wonderful, wonderful kids. So I consider that a compliment.”

So, when the question is “can you give Donald Trump a compliment” and then Hillarys gives him a compliment…..Donald Trump is apparently not sure if it was actually a compliment…but he’s going to take it that way, which is awefully nice of him to debate the premise of the question for a several seconds, before accepting it as valid.

And then of course it was time for Trump to compliment Hillary….which brings us to our last award of the night

The “shooting yourself in the foot” award.

So this was Trump’s compliment of Clinton:

“I will say this about Hillary. She doesn't quit and she doesn't give up. I respect that. I tell it like it is. She is a fighter. I disagree with much of what she is fighting for, I do disagree with her judgment in many cases, but she does fights hard and doesn't quit and she doesn’t give up, and I consider that a very good trait.“

Now its actually a nice and sincere compliment, and on balance more in keeping with the spirit of the question than the one Clinton gave Trump…..so whats the problem?


Trump’s best argument so far this campaign, the one he was pushing when he was up in the polls, the one that did so well an entire section of the 3rd debate will be dedicated too it, was that Hillary was too weak, frail or sickly to have the stamina and health needed to be president.

Except per compliment trump…..shes actually a fighter and never quits……which should end most of the discussion about her physical and mental fitness to be president.

OOPS.

And here ends our second presidential debate award show….join us next week for the 3rd and final installment of the 2016 Presidential Debate Awards. (assuming Donald Trump doesnt throw a temper tantrum and skip the debate to go change his diaper and/or gets arrested for sexually assaulting everyone)   

The first 2016 Presidential Debate Awards pt 2: HILLARY WINS! FATALITY

Welcome back to the 1st 2016 presidential debate award show. When we last left, things were going pretty even for out two condenters…..but now, the fun part really begins…..unless you’re a Donald trump fan in which case this is going to be painful. (for those who missed part 1 it can be found Here


Lets begin with

The “Dine and Dash” award.
This one goes to Trump, after being presented with the following story by Clinton

“I've met dishwashers, painters, architects, glass installers, marble installers, drapery installers, like my dad was, who you refused to pay when they finished the work that you asked them to do.

We have an architect in the audience who designed one of your clubhouses at one of your golf courses. It's a beautiful facility. It immediately was put to use. And you wouldn't pay what the man needed to be paid, what he was charging you to do...

TRUMP: Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was unsatisfied with his work...

CLINTON: Well, to...

TRUMP: Which our country should do, too.”

Yep, that’s Donald Trump saying it’s a good idea to NOT pay people for services rendered….and that this should be applied to us at a national level, like say with the debt. It’s a wonder this man went bankrupt 4 times.

Next up:
The “soundbite you will hear in every opposition ad moving forward” award,

Again this award goes to Donald Trump for this line:

We're just opening up on Pennsylvania Avenue right next to the White House, so if I don't get there one way, I'm going to get to Pennsylvania Avenue another.

This line comes across as Trump trying to sound like he’’s outsmarted the world…..without realizing how stupid and arrogant this sounds. Not to mention equating a hotel he doesn’t actually own is the same as the white house.

Next up,

The “product placement” award

This one actually doesn’t go to a candidate, it goes to NBC’s Law and Order series, as plugged by Donald Trump:

TRUMP: Well, first of all, Secretary Clinton doesn't want to use a couple of words, and that's law and order. And we need law and order. If we don't have it, we're not going to have a country.

And when I look at what's going on in Charlotte, a city I love, a city where I have investments, when I look at what's going on throughout various parts of our country, whether it's -- I mean, I can just keep naming them all day long -- we need law and order in our country.

I just got today the, as you know, the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police, we just -- just came in. We have endorsements from, I think, almost every police group, very -- I mean, a large percentage of them in the United States.

We have a situation where we have our inner cities, African- Americans, Hispanics are living in he'll because it's so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.

In Chicago, they've had thousands of shootings, thousands since January 1st.Thousands of shootings. And I'm saying, where is this? Is this a war-torn country? What are we doing? And we have to stop the violence. We have to bring back law and order. In a place like Chicago, where thousands of people have been killed, thousands over the last number of years, in fact, almost 4,000 have been killed since Barack Obama became president, over -- almost 4,000 people in Chicago have been killed. We have to bring back law and order. […]

TRUMP: But we need -- Lester, we need law and order. And we need law and order in the inner cities, because the people that are most affected by what's happening are African-American and Hispanic people. And it's very unfair to them what our politicians are allowing to happen.

For those too lazy to count, that’s 7 plugs for Law and Order in a matter of minutes

Next up

The “giving away the high ground" award

And again this award goes to Donald Trump. Ok so if there is one thing most right wingers believe, its that Hillary Clinton wants to steal your guns away from you and Donald Trump doesn’t. This is even the rational used by the NRA to endorse Trump over Clinton….then this happened.

First Clinton said this:
“And we finally need to pass a prohibition on anyone who's on the terrorist watch list from being able to buy a gun in our country. If you're too dangerous to fly, you are too dangerous to buy a gun. So there are things we can do, and we ought to do it in a bipartisan way.”

Which then led Trump to say:
“First of all, I agree, and a lot of people even within my own party want to give certain rights to people on watch lists and no- fly lists. I agree with you. When a person is on a watch list or a no-fly list, and I have the endorsement of the NRA, which I'm very proud of.”

Now because he pulls a trump and fails to complete his sentence, it could be argued it’s a bit unclear, but basically it seems like Trump just said he agrees with Hillary on gun control.

Especially when he followed it with this:
“Well, I'm talking about taking guns away from gangs and people that use them. And I don't think -- I really don't think you disagree with me on this, if you want to know the truth.”

Now again, thanks to Trump’s limited speaking abilities its not clear who “people that use them” are…..but its apparently a wide range of gun owners outside of the previously mentioned groups.

So yea, 2nd amendment people, why are you voting Trump? He just said, twice, he’s coming for your guns as hard as Clinton would.

Next up,
the “reversal of the night” award

This one goes to Hillary Clinton, for what in all honesty I think is the best political debate maneuver shes ever had. It started when Trump said this:

“And I will tell you, you look at the inner cities -- and I just left Detroit, and I just left Philadelphia, and I just -- you know, you've seen me, I've been all over the place. You decided to stay home, and that's OK. But I will tell you, I've been all over. And I've met some of the greatest people I'll ever meet within these communities. And they are very, very upset with what their politicians have told them and what their politicians have done.”

To which Hillary said:

“I think -- I think -- I think Donald just criticized me for preparing for this debate. And, yes, I did. And you know what else I prepared for? I prepared to be president. And I think that's a good thing.”

Now not only did this get applause from the people in the hall, I think its genius because I don’t think Trump was criticizing Clinton for preparing, I think he was trying to critize her for taking time off when she was sick. But he was Inarticulate (because hes trump) so Clinton managed to slam him hard on an attack he didn’t mean to make, and one that, even days after the debate hes taking heat for and has no defense for.

So yea, big win for Clinton on that one.

Speaking of big wins for Clinton……its time to get to Birtherism:

First up
the “Please stop asking me about this award”

Not shockingly this one goes to Trump, for when he was asked why he suddenly decided Obama was a citizen and said this:

“When I got involved, I didn't fail. I got him to give the birth certificate. So I'm satisfied with it. And I'll tell you why I'm satisfied with it.

HOLT: That was...

TRUMP: Because I want to get on to defeating ISIS, because I want to get on to creating jobs, because I want to get on to having a strong border, because I want to get on to things that are very important to me and that are very important to the country.”

That’s literally Trump saying “Im satisfied with it because Id rather not talk about it anymore. Plus this was a dead issue when Obama produced his birth certificate.

Sadly for him, Lester Holt called out the chronological lie here, which leads into our next award

The “I did not prep for this shit AT ALL” award

HOLT: I will let you respond. It's important. But I just want to get the answer here. The birth certificate was produced in 2011. You've continued to tell the story and question the president's legitimacy in 2012, '13, '14, '15...

TRUMP: Yeah.

HOLT: .... as recently as January. So the question is, what changed your mind?

TRUMP: Well, nobody was pressing it, nobody was caring much about it. I figured you'd ask the question tonight, of course. But nobody was caring much about it. But I was the one that got him to produce the birth certificate. And I think I did a good job.

Secretary Clinton also fought it. I mean, you know -- now, everybody in mainstream is going to say, oh, that's not true. Look, it's true. Sidney Blumenthal sent a reporter -- you just have to take a look at CNN, the last week, the interview with your former campaign manager. And she was involved. But just like she can't bring back jobs, she can't produce.


This time Trump’s answer has two parts….once again he says he basically only “changed” his mind cause he wasn’t getting any real media attention for it….but more problematic is his claim that he “assumed” the question was coming.

And its problematic because, if you assumed this question was coming, WHY DIDN’T HE HAVE AN ANWSER READY TO GO?, cause all he had was “Please can we not talk about this” and tried to change subjects.

Seriously how bad do you have to be to fail the question you openly claim you knew was coming?

Next up,

The “NO FATTIES” award.

Anyone want to take a while guess who gets this one? Yep, its trump……but probably not for the bit your expecting (I’ll get to rosie later), instead it goes to this bit:

“I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She's saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don't -- maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?”

I guess in Trump world, the only people good with computers are super fat (and implied) losers. Well there goes the youth vote. Also makes this next bit kinda awkward:

I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly doable.

So I guess Trump’s 10 year old son is 400lbs?

Next, the “What are you waiting for” award

And Trump’s streak continues.

In addition to the previously mentioned Email thing, Donald Trump also says he’d have done better if only he’d been able to bring up Benghazi…..well about that:

“Or, as I've been saying for a long time, and I think you'll agree, because I said it to you once, had we taken the oil -- and we should have taken the oil -- ISIS would not have been able to form either, because the oil was their primary source of income. And now they have the oil all over the place, including the oil -- a lot of the oil in Libya, which was another one of her disasters.”

And then the conversation moved on. Where’s the follow up? You want to talk about Benghazi, that was your chance….so what were you waiting for?

To be honest, I think trump was getting tired….cause from this point on his debate performance starts decline at an accelerated pace, which leads to our next award.

The “I’d Like to phone a friend” award:

Seriously. At one point Donald Trump actually asked people to call someone else rather than have him defend his own bullshit.

“I then spoke to Sean Hannity, which everybody refuses to call Sean Hannity. I had numerous conversations with Sean Hannity at Fox. And Sean Hannity said -- and he called me the other day -- and I spoke to him about it -- he said you were totally against the war, because he was for the war.

HOLT: Why is your judgment better than...

TRUMP: And when he -- excuse me. And that was before the war started. Sean Hannity said very strongly to me and other people -- he's willing to say it, but nobody wants to call him. I was against the war. He said, you used to have fights with me, because Sean was in favor of the war.

And I understand that side, also, not very much, because we should have never been there. But nobody called Sean Hannity. And then they did an article in a major magazine, shortly after the war started. I think in '04. But they did an article which had me totally against the war in Iraq.

And one of your compatriots said, you know, whether it was before or right after, Trump was definitely -- because if you read this article, there's no doubt. But if somebody -- and I'll ask the press -- if somebody would call up Sean Hannity, this was before the war started. He and I used to have arguments about the war. I said, it's a terrible and a stupid thing. It's going to destabilize the Middle East. And that's exactly what it's done. It's been a disaster.”

For those counting at home, that is 4 times Trump begged someone to let him phone a friend….because debates are hard.

And it only got harder, with our next award

The “they arnt laughing with you” award.

This award again goes to Trump who in the span of a couple of seconds got laughed at by the audience…..twice (although admittedly Clinton gets the assist for one of those)

“TRUMP: Well, I have much better judgment than she does. There's no question about that. I also have a much better temperament than she has, you know?

(LAUGHTER)

I have a much better -- she spent -- let me tell you -- she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising -- you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names -- oh, temperament, let's go after -- I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not have a...”

Yea, you can see how great Trump’s temperament is, just by looking at the change in his ability to complete a sentence once the audience started laughing……look how flustered he got. And then Clinton comes along for the kill:

“HOLT: Secretary Clinton?

TRUMP: Wait. The AFL-CIO the other day, behind the blue screen, I don't know who you were talking to, Secretary Clinton, but you were totally out of control. I said, there's a person with a temperament that's got a problem.

HOLT: Secretary Clinton?

CLINTON: Whew, OK.

(LAUGHTER)”

This by the way is the now infamous “shimmy” people are talking about for this debate……just to give full context.

So yea, that’s trump getting mocked twice….and the nights not over yet.

The “WAR! HUH, GOOD GOD YALL, What is it good for?” Award

Do I even have to say who’s winning this one? Yep the Trump streak continues. Although this moment appears to have slipped under most people’s radars it seems, Donald Trump has no idea what might or might not start a war.

CLINTON: The other day, I saw Donald saying that there were some Iranian sailors on a ship in the waters off of Iran, and they were taunting American sailors who were on a nearby ship. He said, you know, if they taunted our sailors, I'd blow them out of the water and start another war. That's not good judgment.

TRUMP: That would not start a war.

CLINTON: That is not the right temperament to be commander-in- chief, to be taunted. And the worst part...

TRUMP: No, they were taunting us.”

So yea, in Trump world blowing soldiers up wouldn’t piss off their government, because they were “taunting” us and no taunt can ever ever ever ever ever ever ever go unanswered (Im pretty sure that’s actually the Trump family motto by the way) and of course the other government would totally see it that way too…..

Next we reach a moment that will go down in the record books…..

The “Fastest flip flop in the history of mankind award”

Which happened when Trump said this:

“I agree with her on one thing. The single greatest problem the world has is nuclear armament, nuclear weapons, not global warming, like you think and your -- your president thinks.”

So in the course of a single sentence, Trump agrees with Hillary that nukes are the greatest problem, then disagrees with Hillary actually having said that and instead says he disagrees with her because she believes something else.

And all of this is about 15 seconds…..which Ive seen a couple of places claim is actually the legit record for fastest flip flop in a presidential debate in history (no idea if they are right though)….just saying.

And by the way…..Trumps logical issues are about to get whole hell of a lot worse

Our next award

The “Word Salad” award.

Trump picks this one up for this exchange near the end of the debate:

“HOLT: Which leads to my next question, as we enter our last segment here (inaudible) the subject of securing America. On nuclear weapons, President Obama reportedly considered changing the nation's longstanding policy on first use. Do you support the current policy? Mr. Trump, you have two minutes on that.

TRUMP: Well, I have to say that, you know, for what Secretary Clinton was saying about nuclear with Russia, she's very cavalier in the way she talks about various countries. But Russia has been expanding their -- they have a much newer capability than we do. We have not been updating from the new standpoint.

I looked the other night. I was seeing B-52s, they're old enough that your father, your grandfather could be flying them. We are not -- we are not keeping up with other countries. I would like everybody to end it, just get rid of it. But I would certainly not do first strike.

I think that once the nuclear alternative happens, it's over. At the same time, we have to be prepared. I can't take anything off the table. Because you look at some of these countries, you look at North Korea, we're doing nothing there. China should solve that problem for us. China should go into North Korea.China is totally powerful as it relates to North Korea.

And by the way, another one powerful is the worst deal I think I've ever seen negotiated that you started is the Iran deal. Iran is one of their biggest trading partners. Iran has power over North Korea.

And when they made that horrible deal with Iran, they should have included the fact that they do something with respect to North Korea. And they should have done something with respect to Yemen and all these other places.

And when asked to Secretary Kerry, why didn't you do that? Why didn't you add other things into the deal? One of the great giveaways of all time, of all time, including $400 million in cash. Nobody's ever seen that before. That turned out to be wrong. It was actually $1.7 billion in cash, obviously, I guess for the hostages. It certainly looks that way.

So you say to yourself, why didn't they make the right deal? This is one of the worst deals ever made by any country in history. The deal with Iran will lead to nuclear problems. All they have to do is sit back 10 years, and they don't have to do much.

HOLT: Your two minutes is expired.

TRUMP: And they're going to end up getting nuclear. I met with Bibi Netanyahu the other day. Believe me, he's not a happy camper.”

So 3 things are clear here….one Trump keeps contradicting himself (for example how much money was in that deal?, Does China control North Korea, or does Iran),

Second apparently Iran runs the world and influences everything. They must be the illuminati

But last and most important…holy fucking crap does Trump clearly not know anything about the policy.

Next up….

The “wait, where the f*ck am I?” award.

I’m pretty sure there was a moment right near the end of the debate in which Trump may have straight out forgotten where he was or what he was doing.

HOLT: Mr. Trump, this year Secretary Clinton became the first woman nominated for president by a major party. Earlier this month, you said she doesn't have, quote, "a presidential look." She's standing here right now. What did you mean by that?

TRUMP: She doesn't have the look. She doesn't have the stamina. I said she doesn't have the stamina. And I don't believe she does have the stamina. To be president of this country, you need tremendous stamina.

HOLT: The quote was, "I just don't think she has the presidential look."

TRUMP: You have -- wait a minute. Wait a minute, Lester. You asked me a question. Did you ask me a question?

You have to be able to negotiate our trade deals. You have to be able to negotiate, that's right, with Japan, with Saudi Arabia. I mean, can you imagine, we're defending Saudi Arabia? And with all of the money they have, we're defending them, and they're not paying? All you have to do is speak to them. Wait. You have so many different things you have to be able to do, and I don't believe that Hillary has the stamina.

Notice what happened when the moderator tried to feed Trump his own quote….Trump appears to straight up get confused as to what’s going on…asking if he was asked a question….then proceeds to give an answer (about Trade Deals) that was actually relevant to the previous question….only to top himself at the very end (“Wait.”) and actually restate his original claim.



Next up, our last award,

The “Boy who cried Bitch” award.

Again, add this one to the pile for Trump. So Trump was attacked by Hillary for the things he said about women and his defense was:

“TRUMP: You know, Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials. Some of it's said in entertainment. Some of it's said -- somebody who's been very vicious to me, Rosie O'Donnell, I said very tough things to her, and I think everybody would agree that she deserves it and nobody feels sorry for her.

But you want to know the truth? I was going to say something...

HOLT: Please very quickly.

TRUMP: ... extremely rough to Hillary, to her family, and I said to myself, "I can't do it. I just can't do it. It's inappropriate. It's not nice." But she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue. They're untrue. And they're misrepresentations.”

Meaning Trump’s defense for I say nasty things to women was basically “yea but the bitches deserve it….buy hey, at least I’m not saying them to you….I’m just going to imply them, heh heh heh, look how clever I am”. It kinda like when a toddler trys to outsmart you by “hiding” behind the coatrack….except in trumps case no one is pretending they cant see him. And the worst part is……he’s still trying to pull this scam to convince people he didn’t massive fuck up the debate. So now of course, Miss Universe, Miss Australia, and others are major scandals for Trump. Though you have to enjoy the irony of a bunch of beauty queens taking out Trump.



So there you have it folks, the first 2016 Presidential Debate awards…..join us for the 2nd award show in about 2 weeks, when the remaining pieces of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton face off yet again.

The first 2016 Presidential Debate Awards pt 1: ROUND 1 FIGHT!

Earlier this week was the first 2016 Presidential Debate, featuring “The Lady in Red” Hillary Clinton and the “Asshole of Orange” Donald J Trump (by the way, how come Trump got introduced with a middle initial, and Hillary didn’t? just wondering).

Now because this was a long debate, its going to take multiple blogs to cover this…..But to make it more fun it will be following the format I used with the last few GOP debate, a fake award show, so here we go with the first part of the 1st 2016 Presidential Debate Awards.

First we start early on in the debate with

The “mean girl” trying to make “fetch” happen award:


This award goes to Hillary Clinton for her multiple attempts to try to introduce a new catch phrase: Trumped up trickle down.

The first reference to this was early on in the debate, when Clinton said

“We also, though, need to have a tax system that rewards work and not just financial transactions. And the kind of plan that Donald has put forth would be trickle-down economics all over again. In fact, it would be the most extreme version, the biggest tax cuts for the top percent of the people in this country than we've ever had.

I call it trumped-up trickle-down, because that's exactly what it would be. That is not how we grow the economy.”

Then again about 10 minutes later:

“$4 billion tax benefit for your family. And when you look at what you are proposing...

TRUMP: How much? How much for my family?

CLINTON: ... it is...

TRUMP: Lester, how much?

CLINTON: ... as I said, trumped-up trickle-down. Trickle-down did not work. It got us into the mess we were in, in 2008 and 2009. Slashing taxes on the wealthy hasn't worked.”

Thing is, Trumped up trickle down is neither catchy, funny, short, or rolls off the tongue. So lets hope Hillary stops trying to make it happen.

Then the “I’m and oxymoron award”

And Donald Trump gets on the board with his first award.

When asked about his plan to grow jobs Donald Trump said this:

So Ford is leaving. You see that, their small car division leaving. Thousands of jobs leaving Michigan, leaving Ohio. They're all leaving. And we can't allow it to happen anymore. […] We cannot let [businesses leaving the country] happen. Under my plan, I'll be reducing taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for companies, small and big businesses. That's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan. It's going to be a beautiful thing to watch.

Then later he said this:

“Well, the first thing you do is don't let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They're leaving, and they're leaving in bigger numbers than ever.

And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you're going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you're wrong.”

Now heres the issue, and we can even use Trump’s example of Ford. When Ford moves their manufacturing to Mexico, they will still be headquartered in the United States. Meaning under Trump’s plan their taxes will go down significantly as they are an American company.

But by manufacturing in Mexico, Ford’s taxes should go up significantly under Trump’s plan because they are making things in Mexico and bringing them back here.

So yea, which is it? Are business taxes going up or down under Trump?

Next up, another award to Trump, this time the


“I see you riding round time with the girl I love and I’m like FUCK YOU!” award

This award comes from the following exchange

“Clinton: […]In fact, Donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis. He said, back in 2006, "Gee, I hope it does collapse, because then I can go in and buy some and make some money." Well, it did collapse.

TRUMP: That's called business, by the way.”


Making money on your getting fucked, that’s good business to Trump. Makes you wonder if he has a chance to make money as president but fuck you over as a result, will he take it?

I don’t know but I’m pretty sure his new campaign slogan is “Fuck you, make money”

The Award:

And it’s Trump with a threepeate as he again interrupts Clinton.

Clinton: Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.

TRUMP: I did not. I did not. I do not say that.

CLINTON: I think science is real.

TRUMP: I do not say that.”

Now for the record, he did say that [insert tweet], beyond that the clip in the award name sums up exactly how I think Trump came off in this bit.



And in the

Award.

This one happened to many people immediately following this exchange:

“CLINTON: So we have taken the home page of my website, HillaryClinton.com, and we've turned it into a fact-checker. So if you want to see in real-time what the facts are, please go and take a look. Because what I have proposed...

TRUMP: And take a look at mine, also, and you'll see.”

Well it turns out, a lot of people did that.

And well only one of the candidates websites was up to the task, and people suddenly noticed that Donald Trump’s website had crashed….in fact it had crashed when the debate started, just from that traffic, let alone when Donald directed people too it.


Speaking of directing people to websites, this was not the only time this happened, which brings up to our

“Shilling for the opponent” award:

And like the last one, this one also goes to Trump, who in the very next exchange/question said:

“TRUMP: And look at her website. You know what? It's no difference than this. She's telling us how to fight ISIS. Just go to her website. She tells you how to fight ISIS on her website. “

Yep, that’s right, Donald Trump is actively encouraging you to go look as his opponents plan and see how good it is.

And he really really really wants you to do it, as nearly an hour later at the end of the debate, he comes back to it.

“Trump : I will go very quickly. But I will tell you that Hillary will tell you to go to her website and read all about how to defeat ISIS, which she could have defeated by never having it, you know, get going in the first place.”

So yea, why are you still reading this blog? GO READ HILLARY CLINTONS ISIS PLAN……..Even Donald Trump wants you to do it.

Clinton by the way openly mocked Trump after his first request to read her plan which leads directly into our next award:

“Let’s do the time warp again” Award:


CLINTON: Well, at least I have a plan to fight ISIS.

HOLT: ... achieving prosperity...

TRUMP: No, no, you're telling the enemy everything you want to do.

CLINTON: No, we're not. No, we're not.

TRUMP: See, you're telling the enemy everything you want to do. No wonder you've been fighting -- no wonder you've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life.”

Hillary Clinton is 68 years old. ISIS was founded in 2013/2014. So unless ISIS has a time machine we don’t know about, its basically impossible for ANYONE over the age of 20 to have been fighting ISIS their entire adult life.

Seriously of all the things Trump said, this may actually have been the easiest to disprove and the single most laughable claim of the debate.

This as you may have noticed if you watched the debate live was kinda the start of Trump going off the rails for the remainder of the debate.

Which brings up the next award.

The “Whiplash” award

So of course, Donald Trump was asked about his taxes and why he wont release them….and at first he stuck to his usual answer.

TRUMP: I don't mind releasing -- I'm under a routine audit. And it'll be released. And -- as soon as the audit's finished, it will be released.

Minutes later however, when pressed on the issue, things changed a bit

“I will say this. We have a situation in this country that has to be taken care of. I will release my tax returns -- against my lawyer's wishes -- when she releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted. As soon as she releases them, I will release.”

So he cant release them cause of the audit…..until he can release them under audit and doesn’t want to…..any chance we can get some clarification on this Mr. trump?

Trump: Almost every lawyer says, you don't release your returns until the audit's complete. When the audit's complete, I'll do it. But I would go against them if she releases her e-mails.

So you can and cant release because of the audit, but you will and wont anyways? Thanks for clearing that up.

Incidentally between the first and second incident of whiplash here, Trump said something even worse

The “why bother not to incriminate yourself” award:


Ok so after mentioning his audit, Trump tries to go on to defend why he’s being audited…..and fails FREAKING MISERABLY.

“Trump: Well, I told you, I will release them as soon as the audit. Look, I've been under audit almost for 15 years. I know a lot of wealthy people that have never been audited. I said, do you get audited? I get audited almost every year.

And in a way, I should be complaining. I'm not even complaining. I don't mind it. It's almost become a way of life. I get audited by the IRS. But other people don't.”

So yea there is definitely something suspicious in Donald Trump’s tax returns……after all even rich people don’t get audited for 15 straight years as Trump says.

The question is really WHAT is in Trumps returns, is it that “he's not as rich as he says he is” or “maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be.” And of course “we don't know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks. Or maybe he doesn't want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes.”

Its your pick which you believe….or all of them, or something else….take your pick. (and yes all the quoted parts are from Hillary Clinton after Trump said it)

And now for the biggest moment of the debate:

The “Craigslist Missed Connection” award

And this award is presented to Donald Trump. Since the debate ended Trump has been saying the debate was biased because he was never asked about Hillary’s emails. Except he was….he just neglected to answer the question.

“HOLT: He also -- he also raised the issue of your e-mails. Do you want to respond to that?

CLINTON: I do. You know, I made a mistake using a private e- mail.

TRUMP: That's for sure.

CLINTON: And if I had to do it over again, I would, obviously, do it differently. But I'm not going to make any excuses. It was a mistake, and I take responsibility for that.

HOLT: Mr. Trump?

TRUMP: That was more than a mistake. That was done purposely. OK? That was not a mistake. That was done purposely. When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth so they're not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it's disgraceful. And believe me, this country thinks it's -- really thinks it's disgraceful, also.

As far as my tax returns, you don't learn that much from tax returns. That I can tell you. You learn a lot from financial disclosure. And you should go down and take a look at that.

The other thing, I'm extremely underleveraged. The report that said $650 -- which, by the way, a lot of friends of mine that know my business say, boy, that's really not a lot of money. It's not a lot of money relative to what I had.

The buildings that were in question, they said in the same report, which was -- actually, it wasn't even a bad story, to be honest with you, but the buildings are worth $3.9 billion. And the $650 isn't even on that. But it's not $650. It's much less than that. […]

To be honest this answer continues in a similar vein for many many more paragraphs….because it’s the inherent problem of Trump, no insult can go unanswered…..even at the cost of all else.

Now it should be noted, if there was a turning point in the debate. Up until now, to be honest Trump took some hits, and Clinton took some hits. However after this point…..the bottom fell out on Trump and he started taking shot after shot after shot……..so given the change in tone, this seems to be the best place to wrap up part 1 of this debate review.



Part 2 is already up and written and can be found here

Hillary's health proves the media is terminally ill.

If you’ve been paying any attention at all to politics recently you’ve probably heard that Hillary Clinton is about to drop dead and how this totally disqualifies her from being president. You may have even heard the Democrats are scrambling to replace her on the ballot cause they totally have to forfeit the election and take a 10 yard penalty before starting the next one.

Now what you might not know is that this is total bullshit.

Now yes its true Hillary Clinton had/has a case of pneumonia, but it turns out that the only people close to death in this story are the mainstream media.

Ok so in the last few years, the media has lost all track of its objectivity and its job, and has instead decided its real job is complete and utter neutrality in all things at all times no matter facts.

For example, if someone says the sky is blue, and another person says the sky is plaid, the media spends days digging up people they call “experts” to discuss how reasonable both sides of the debate are, and how both sides have a message that people need to hear and decide on.

At no point does the media think it might be a good idea to stick their heads out a window and look up and see for themselves what fucking color the sky is.

Because doing that would mean they would have to say one side is wrong……and that can NEVER EVER EVER EVER Happen. That is a violation of the media prime directive.

Now perhaps you’re not yet convinced so here are some real world examples:

The media tells you “Climate change isn’t a settled science” Science tells you 99% of scientists say it exists. But someone once said it wasn’t so we have to assume it’s a valid and factually based belief.

The media tells you “Planned Parenthood might be selling baby body parts.” The tapes themselves…..even the highly edited versions, say actually the place they are filming is National Abortion League and not Planned Parenthood. But hey, someone once said it was Planned Parenthood so we have to assume it’s a valid and factually based belief.

The media tells you “its possible Barack Obama might be a Muslim, we cant be sure of his faith.” The Media also tells you “Barack Obama’s Christian pastor, Rev. Wright is a raging lunatic”.

That’s right, its gotten so bad the media wont even tell you one side is provable wrong…..even when reporting on a story that one side is provable wrong. (If Obama was a muslim….he wouldn’t have a pastor…..just in case someone needs me to spell it out for them)

So when Donald Trump’s campaign started suggesting weeks ago that Hillary Clinton had suffered a major brain injury, was possible covering up a stroke, an aneurism, Parkinson’s or even had a battery installed into her brain, and she was basically days away from dying, the media treated it as a totally valid idea, despite the complete lack of evidence to support it.

Yes eventually a tape emerged that allegedly showed Clinton having a weird twitch and convulsion that appeared to look like a stroke…..and then almost as quickly the full version of that tape emerged showing the whole twitch was part of a joke Clinton was making and that the edited version had been slowed down to make the fake symptoms look more severe.

So despite being almost instantly disproving, this edited tape made the rounds on the mainstream media for days, proving that Clinton had a brain injury. No one ever bothered to mention the tape wasn’t real. Because you know that would involve taking sides.

So that’s the context, when on September 11th, Hillary Clinton collapsed at an event as a result of her symptoms of what was eventually revealed to be pneumonia.

And how did the mainstream media react? Well no less a person than Tom Brocaw said this meant Hillary Clinton should release scans of her brain to prove there was no way the [already disproven and made up] traumatic brain injury could have affected her.

Cause you know pneumonia is a sign of traumatic brain injury the same way a hang nail is a sign of having been shot in the face.

So yes, this kicked off days of debate in the mainstream media….days in which the media literally ignored EVERYTHING so they could debate the possible consequences of Hillary’s possible traumatic brain injury.

For example they wanted to know, could the Democratic Party force Hillary Clinton to withdraw. They even dug up a former head of the DNC to talk about how the Democratic Party needs to seriously consider this option.

Now by the way, a few weeks ago the media decided to talk about if the Republican Party could force Donald Trump to withdraw, and they discovered, No, by law the nomination cant be withdrawn….but the candidate can choose to withdraw it.

Now of course, if that was the law two/three weeks ago…..its still the law now. But you know mentioning that would require “taking a side” and all opinions are equally as valid fuck the facts.

They went from there to discuss, who would replace Hillary Clinton on the ticket [that she legally cant be removed from]…..cause hey why not speculate widely about shit not based in reality?

If you care by the way, the consensus candidate of the reality unbound was Vice President Joe Biden, who they decided could totally run the country for the next 8 years.

See according to the media the Vice President ALWAYS has the best chance of becoming the next president…cause that’s what the media has decided to think. Now in the reality based world, the VP has only seceded the president TWICE (baring the president dying in office), Martin Van Buren following Andrew Jackson and George H.W. Bush following Reagan……and both of them lost reelection

Anybody want to guess why these facts are never introduced into that discussion?

That’s right, cause it would mean someone would be proven wrong.

Or in this case, doubly wrong.

See lets say Hillary Cinton DID decided for no reason at all to leave the ticket……well guess what, we already know who would replace her……and its not Joe Biden. It’s Tim Kaine……you know, her running mate, the guy running for Vice President?

You all remember the Vice President right? That would be that position in the Constitution whos entire purpose is to be able to take over the job of President if the current President cant?

Like there is literally no other reason at all for a vice president to exist…..and the media of course covers the Vice Presidential selection of both major parties. But then, when the question comes up…….well they cant tell you what they reported on and why it happens cause that might mean proving someone wrong…..and that is never allowed.

Which brings up the next point……the whole reason Hillary’s health is important, according to his opponents is cause no one is sure if the country would survive if a president died in office, or even what to do.

Cause that’s never a thing that happened.
William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinley, Warren Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, and Jack Kennedy all served out their terms. Richard Nixon even got his full 8 years.

So you know the whole “What do we do if the president dies thing” would be totally new and untrodded ground for this country…

But I hear what your saying, maybe they just think you cant be president if youre not 100% physically fit.


Now I have a retort to that as well, but first I need to go tell president FDR to stop break dancing and running around my house.

But hey, I mean if America’s longest serving president being confined to a wheelchair isn’t enough proof, we could also talk about the one who had a cancerous tumor removed (Cleveland) or the one who served his entire term with a terminal illness (Arthur), or the one with a horribly messed up back (Kennedy), or the one who was blind in one eye (Teddy Roosevelt) or the one with a bullet in him (Jackson….also TR). Not to mention whatever it was that Lincoln had….or Washington’s horrible scars and impotence from Smallpox. And oh yea, let us not forget the one with Alzheimer’s (Reagan)…..you know the one the entire republican party wants every president to be just like?

So as we can all see, physical fitness its just as important to being president as eye color is….maybe even slightly less so.

So yea, despite what the media tells you, Hillary Clinton doesn’t have brain damage, isn’t going to be replaced on the ticket, if she dies we have a backup plan, and we have done fantastic with less than physically fit presidents in the past.

But of course the media cant tell you this…..cause that would mean telling some folks their ideas are fucking stupid.

Luckily though, there is one person who is saving us from the cavalcade of retardation suffered by the mainstream media……Donald J. Trump, the man who started it all.

See, Trump has never met a situation he couldn’t fuck up for himself.

See not long after Hillary had her incident, Trump’s campaign started calling on her to release all of her medical records. Eventually someone had the bright idea to ask Trump’s campaign to release his.

Now this shouldn’t be a problem for Trump….after all a few months back his doctor released a statement proclaiming Trump to be the healthiest person to ever run for the presidency, while also claiming Trump tested positive on every single one of his medical tests.

Now of course back then, no one cared about medical records, so no one bothered to point out if Trump really did test positive for all his tests, that means he has HIV. Also Herpes. Also Scabies. Also Leprosy. And Cholera. And Dysentery. And Parkinson’s. And Cancer.

Cause, yea with medical tests, testing positive is NOT always a good thing.

Anyways, the fact that Trump has all these aliments probably explains why his campaign manager told reporters, that Trump would not release his medical records, and that they are covered by his right to privacy. (that scream your hearing is pro lifers around the country flipping shit at the acknowledgement of this idea)


And well if there is one thing the media likes more than total and abject neutrality in the face of faces to stave off having to do their actual jobs, its someone ELSE’s hypocrisy. So naturally they called him on this immediately.

Which led to Trump’s campaign promising he WOULD release his medical records…..on the Dr. Oz show. But that Doctor Oz wouldn’t be able to ask Trump about anything that Trump didn’t want to discuss.

Except then it turned out, Donald Trump would not be releasing his medical records on Dr. Oz’s show or anywhere else. Instead he would go on Dr. Oz’s show to answer prescreened questions about his health…..and release a summary of a doctor’s opinion of his medical records that he may or may not have seen.

Meanwhile this also takes the heat off of Hillary…and makes it hard for Trump to hit her on an issue he was winning on. Sure as a story its equally as bullshit… but it allows the media to run both a hypocrite story AND claim both sides are equally untrustworthy…..so they can be super neutral YAY.

Cause really, feeding the media’s sickness is a win for everyone *sarcasm*.

Donald Trump is back in the USSR.

Anyone with a slight inkling of understanding might expect that any controversies that erupted at the Republican National Convention(like say Melania Trump's plagiarism turned potential campaign finance fraud, steamrolling delegates by breaking the agreed upon convention rules, seeming to openly disrespect the mother of one of the Benghazi victims and the Vice Presidential nominee by doing live unscheduled TV interviews while they were speaking, ect) would involve Republican presidential Nominee Donald Trump.

What you probably wouldn't expect is that the  controversies that erupted at the Democratic National Convention  would also involve  Republican presidential Nominee Donald Trump.

Ok so right before the Democratic Convention was set to begin Wikileaks posted a bunch of information gained by hacker that showed the DNC had intentionally and actively tried to bias the primary election in favor of Hillary Clinton over any of her possible challengers. Now to be fair, this wasnt exactly breaking news.....even the most serious allegation, that the DNC possibly illegally bundled and funneled money for Hillary Clinton had already been a news story in its own right. The Wikileaks posting basically moved the stories out of the realm of "its highly likely the DNC biased the election" to "heres the proof the DNC biased the election". And once the DNC chair resigned, it was likely this story might have died off.

Except of course for trying to find out who hacked the DNC in the first place to get those records......and it turned it it appears to have been the Russian Government.

So yea, it looks like the Russian Government released documents timed specifically to damage one of America's political parties, and by implication help the other one.

This is how Donald Trump gets involved, he's the candidate who benefits from the Russian interference.  

But the question remains, why would Russia help Donald Trump in the presidential election? what possible difference could it make to them who the American President is?

Well I'm glad you asked. See just a day or so before Russia leaked the DNC documents, Donald Trump said he would not defend NATO countries, specifically the Baltic States, if invaded by Russia....unless he could see some finaical reason to do so.

As Trump himself put it recapping the conversation:

"What would happen if Russia or somebody attacks?’ I said: ‘I don’t know; have they paid?’ … ‘Well, they haven’t paid, but we have a treaty.’“I said: ‘Yeah, they have a treaty too – they have to pay.’
So you know, if push comes to shove....lets hope the Baltic States have paid up their protection racket money.

Oh and during the Republican Convention when the party was hammering out its platform (as all partys do everytime during the convention) Trump's people insisted on single change to the platform.....removing the part in which the GOP stood for arming and defending the Ukraine (which was invaded by Russia in 2014 and is still occupied). It was literally the ONLY thing in which the Trump team asked for any input of any kind on.


So yea, its pretty clear why Russia would want Trump...he has two major policy positions that would massively help out Russia in what is generally accepted to be their long term territorial expansion goals.

But of course, Trump wants nothing to with it right?

.................................... Turns out I may have to get back to you on that.

So Democrats were quick to pounce of the fact that Trump's policies help Russia as "proof" this was done by Russia to advantage Trump.

Trump then called a press conference to address these allegations, which he of course dismissed out of hand as unfounded, attacked Russia for meddling in American politics, promised consequences then attacked Democrats for this desperate and insane ploy to try to discredit him and pointed out how sleesy this makes the Democratic Party.

Just kidding.

Thats what a normal, sane, rational person would do (and in fact is pretty much what Trumps running mate Mike Pence did). Donald Trump is none of those things however.

Instead Trump called a press conference and said

“By the way, if [Russia] hacked, they probably have her 33,000 emails, I hope they do. They probably have her 33,000 emails that she lost and deleted. Because you’d see some beauties there.[...] I will tell you this: Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

That would be a candidate for President of the United States of America, hoping the government of the United State's primary antagonist for much of the last 70 years, hacked into American Governmental computers and stole information from officials of the American Government.....and that they will release that information to the world ....while also suggesting if they dont already have the information they should keep trying to hack into the American Government to get it just to help him politically.

Or to quote one of George W. Bush's appointees to the National Security Council, former Senior Director for Strategic Planning and Institutional Reform, William Inboden, Donald Trump's comments are "tantamount to treason."

So yea not surprisingly minutes after Trump made that comment (if not faster) pretty much anyone with an internet connection was diving into his background and the background of literally everyone who's ever been in contact with him to see if it was remotely possible he really was that stupid and/or an agent of the Russian government.

And it turns out......well evidence doesnt look good for Trump. For starters turns out a lot of his top aides, including his campaign manager have strong ties to Russia or even Putin directly.

Then a lawsuit uncovered by the New York Times points to many of Trumps projects in the last few years being financed in part by Russia. In fact he's been doing real estate deals there since 1980...this is all public record.

Now to be fair, literally none of that is illegal or unethical. In fact the financial part is pretty easy to clear up. it would seem to be a pretty easy sell job to say "hey as a successful businessman, its my job to try to make money all over the world. I did a lot of work in Russia, as well as [insert list of other countries here] and I can make as much money for the US as I did for myself. And Ive had tons of practice standing tough with the russians, even when they try underhanded stuff like this"

But again, thats the actions of a reasonable man....and this is Donald Trump.

So Trump took a different approach:

He claimed earlier today that except for a single $95 Million  deal he's never done any business of any kind with Russia ever.

Those pictures are shots of the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant (which is owned by Trump)...in Moscow Russia.

In otherwords, Trump is lying.....and that literally took me about 90 seconds to find on the internet.

Now again, none of what he did is illegal, or even suggests he's an agent of the Russian Government.....but now he's on record as blatantly and stupidly lied while trying to convince you hes honest about his connections to Russia. Im sure there are many more examples too....but really I only need one.

This one is Donald Trump IN moscow at the event...just in case he claims he didnt know about it

Which is why Democrats are calling for Donald Trump to release his tax returns, to show exactly what his dealing with the Russians are.

His campaign chief (one of the ones who used to lobby for Putin) has already gone on TV and said "Not going to happen"....not because of the Russian connection but because of the IRS audit....which Trump has claimed for months means he cant release them (the IRS disagrees).

Now to be fair, I dont think there is anything in Trumps taxes that would link him to Russia in any ways other than the ones we already know about. There really isnt going to be anything nefarious in there.

So why wont Trump do it? Well that gets to the crux of the huge mess that Trump finds himself in....a mess that may bury him if he cant find a way out...especially given that he keeps digging deeper.

Trump cant release his tax returns because he's a liar.....and his ENTIRE professional and public persona is based on a lie. That lie being that he's worth 10 Billion.

Now keep in mind, Trump literally makes his money by selling his name to people because of how much its worth.....the idea being the "Trump" name implies value. In fact according to Trump, it implies 10 Billion worth of value and success.

The problem is, most outside sources estimate Trump's actual value is somewhere between several hundred million dollars and 2-3 billion. Still a TON of money......but nowhere near the value Trumps been claiming to justify what he charges people to slap his name on everything.  And releasing his taxes would prove once and for all, exactly how much hes worth.....and no matter what its not 10 Billion.

So yea, if the truth gets out....Trump may well  lose a ton of current marketing deals.....it will turn out his name isnt what the companies thought it was when they paid for it.....and it will be associated with fraud not profit.  And given that Trump has been blacklisted by most major american banks that discovery could outright end him as a professional.

And the dems knew that when they laid this tramp. Trump had to save himself.......but likely at the cost of his election chances (and with the the GOP election chances). I honestly dont expect this to go away anytime soon....espeically since Trump keeps digging (like with the "treason comment" or even claiming he was willing to recognize Ukraine as part of Russia, as he said just a few hours ago, well after this story broke)himself in deeper.

So yea, lets all get ready to go with Donald Trump on a neverending journey back to the USSR. where he really is about to get knocked out by a "Ukraine girl". Dems dont know how lucky they are.

  

Get to know the GOP VP pick, Mike Pence.

Well I have to hand it to Donald Trump.....he's done the impossible, and found a running mate who might actually be MORE bat-shit crazy than he is, when he picked Indiana Gov and former member of congress Mike Pence to join the ticket.

Now to be fair, youd be well within your rights to have not even heard Trump made a VP selection, let alone never heard the name Mike Pence.

After all, in typical Trump fashion, Trump managed to botch the whole announcement.

So on Wednesday Trump announced that Friday he would announce his VP at a giant press conference at Trump Towers.

Then on Thursday, Trump said he would postpone the announcement to Saturday out of respect for the terrorist attack in Nice France.

This was followed by his campaign chairman saying "no never mind, we actually WILL be doing this on Friday"

This was followed by a campaign spokesman saying "no actually we are going to do this Saturday"

This was then followed by Trump confirming not only were they doing this Saturday, but he hadnt yet decided who the VP was going to be.

Which was then followed by the Donald Trump twitter account announcing Mike Pence as the VP Friday morning.

And then this was followed by the Trump Campaign announcing they would announce the VP pick at the press conference on Saturday.

At which point they re-announced Mike Pence as VP......finally.

Now if you havnt heard about Mike Pence before......youre likely in for a crash course. So with that in mind, here are the top 4 things you need to know about Mike Pence:

5) Doesnt know a damn thing about his OWN party's history...and I mean NOTHING!

So back when he was in congress Pence would post articles he wrote on his website from time to time, one of them, called "A Positive Attitude" ended with the following paragraph:

"The reason I am optimistic is, apart from God's sustaining grace, quite simple. Republicans from George Washington to George W. Bush just have better ideas. [...]"

Now anyone who passed 4th grade history knows that George Washington wasnt a Republican. Or a democrat. Or a Whig. Or a Federalist. Or a Democratic Republican. He was unaffiliated with ANY party and actually encouraged people to avoid them for the good of the country in his farewell address.

Furthermore anyone who passed 2nd grade history knows the first Republican President was Abe Lincoln...the 16th president of the United States.

1st Graders meanwhile know that Washington was the 1st president of the United States, and Kindergartners know that when you count, 16 comes long after 1.

Now to be fair to Mike Pence, I dont know if he is just really fucking bad at history, or never learned how to count. I suppose it could be either.

And before any of his supporters try to say he "mispoke" please recall I pulled that quote from a published article on his website......so he didnt mispeak, he wrote it down, reread it like, presumably had his staff read it, then posted it and was still this damn stupid.

4) Does not believe their is any actual evidence smoking is harmful.

Again quoting from his old congressional website:

"Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer. This is not to say that smoking is good for you.... news flash: smoking is not good for you. If you are reading this article through the blue haze of cigarette smoke you should quit. The relevant question is, what is more harmful to the nation, second hand smoke or back handed big government disguised in do-gooder healthcare rhetoric."
Now so far most of the media seems to only be covering the first two sentences and claiming Pence is against smoking. I included the rest, because I think it actually makes him look worse.

Ok so for starters lets take a look at his "support" for his claims. First, 2 out of 3 smokers doesnt die from smoking. Im going to assume that number was accurate in 2001, (though since pence said it it probably wasnt) when Pence wrote this.

Now 5 out of 6 russian roulette players dont die from a gunshot wound to the head. Meaning smoking is actually twice as likely to kill you as a game where you hold a partly loaded gun to your head and pull a trigger.

Also, can we name any other product in which 1/3rd of users winds up dead because of using it?
Drugs probably.........but weirdly those are illegal because they are dangerous.....and Pence doesnt really seem to mind that.

Second Pence says "9 out of 10 smokers dont get lung cancer". Well 9 out of 10 russian roulette players dont die from a bullet to the left side of the head either. Now thats because most people are right handed, so would be holding the gun against the right side of their heads......but we are just going to ignore that so we can focus on the stat that makes the game look safer.

Finally we get to the next 2 sentences


"This is not to say that smoking is good for you.... news flash: smoking is not good for you. If you are reading this article through the blue haze of cigarette smoke you should quit."


Why should I quit? as you yourself just pointed out......its not like its going to kill me. Like really, if its not going to kill me whats the problem with smoking as much as I want as often as I want?

Now of course what Mike Pence is really trying to say here is that smoking increases your risk of death tremendously, say from heart attack or stroke......but since he also wants to pretend that smoking probably wont kill you and lung cancer is all that matters, he's in a bind.

Hes also in a much bigger one, since this sentence makes clear he KNOWS what he just said about smoking not killing you it total and utter bullshit.

Also as a side note....since when is smoke blue? or a blue haze?.......Ive never seen blue hazy smoke.....though their IS a brand of weed known as blue haze. Mayhaps the governor knows more about that too that he's admitting?

Now finally the end Pence makes it clear why he intentionally lied to you about smoking not killing you.....Government. Cause he's against government in all forms....especially BIG government.....unless he's running it as my next two things to know will show.


3) Believes in state run Media.

All the way back in 2013, Mike Pence, then the new governor of Indiana, had a great idea to combat all the bad press he was getting for being out of his fucking mind.........create his own News service that would only report the news he wanted them to report. In fact the news service, called "Just IN" would be overseen by the press Secretary, and would have direct and exclusive access to the governors mansion.

Because you know, having the news story come directly from the subject of the story and filtered though that subjects staff ensures objective news, amirite?

Now maybe your wondering how Mike Pence could afford to do this, after all running a news organization is expensive. Well he couldnt. Which is where the Indiana Tax payer comes in. They were going to pay for the privilege of being given state run propaganda over news.

Sadly for Pence, and luckily for everyone else, the actual news got ahold of this story before he could get his state run media off the ground.....so as a result Pence backpeddled away from the idea and never got his chance to implement it.

2) Fetal Burial and disability.

Fun fact, it turns out theres another exception to Mike Pence's small government beliefs...vaginas. Specifically what goes in or comes out of them. See basically if you put a Penis in one, you are going to get a Pence in there too.

So as Govenor Mike Pence made Indiana one of the few states to require burial or cremation of fetal remains. The bill also made it illegal to get an abortion due to the fetus being disabled, up-to and including life threatening and non survivable disability's.

Oh and unlike the state run media he wanted to set up.....no taxpayers help on this one....so hopefully if you want an abortion your rich.

So yea, thanks to Mike Pence, in Indiana a terminal ill fetus must be carried to term, cause reasons. Then after having to endure the extra cost and health risks of carrying said fetus you have to bury it at your expense.....because you should have know better than to have sex....even if your married.

 Fun fact, that same bill also makes it illegal to get an abortion because of the babies race.  Because I guess in Mike Pence world, Race is a randomly assigned trait and sometimes a woman of one race will just randomly have a child of a totally different race for no reason and with no way to predict it.

Though to be fair, given his smoking beliefs, its not too shocking he doesnt understand science.

Now the only good news on this one, ironically thanks to Texas losing the recent supreme court case, this law was blocked from going into effect as it was viewed to be too similar to the texas law.

So thats a slight silver lining

1) Believes Mulan is out to brainwash you.

Ok first for those who dont know who or what Mulan is let me help you out:

Thats right, Mike Pence has a Disney movie conspiracy theory [from the column he wrote about it in 1999]: 

"Mulan is a fictional account of a delicate girl of the same name who surreptitiously takes her fathers place in the Chinese army in one of their ancient wars against the Huns. Despite her delicate features and voice, Disney expects us to believe that Mulan’s ingenuity and courage were enough to carry her to military success on an equal basis with her cloddish cohorts. Obviously, this is Walt Disney’s attempt to add childhood expectation to the cultural debate over the role of women in the military. I suspect that some mischievous liberal at Disney assumes that Mulan’s story will cause a quiet change in the next generation’s attitude about women in combat and they just might be right. "

Now not surprisingly at this point, Mike Pence fails world history almost as badly as he failed american history at the beginning of this list.

See Mulan predates Walt Disney.....by about One Thousand Three Hundred Years.

The character Mulan originates in the Ballad of Mulan, a Chinese story dating back to the 6th century, about a Hua Mulan, who does take her fathers place as a solider (so in fairness to Pence he got that part right).

Now Hua Mulan is not believed to have been a real person herself......but was allegedly modeled on the life of Fu Hao, a real Chinese princess turned military general from another One Thousand and Eight Hundred years before the Ballad of Mulan.

Meaning this piece of liberal propaganda, as Pence tries to claim it is, is actually older than Jesus by a good 1200 years or so.

Pence also believes he got one over on Disney, because according to him those incompetent jack asses totally missed how their movie actually disproves the very thing they created it out of thin air to prove...that women cant serve in the military. 

" It is instructive that even in the Disney film, young Ms. Mulan falls in love with her superior officer! Me thinks the politically correct Disney types completely missed the irony of this part of the story. They likely added it because it added realism with which the viewer could identify with the characters. You see, now stay with me on this, many young men find many young women to be attractive sexually. Many young women find many young men to be attractive sexually. Put them together, in close quarters, for long periods of time, and things will get interesting. Just like they eventually did for young Mulan. Moral of story: women in military, bad idea."

Man see how dumb those Disney folks are.....they totally missed something that destroyed a message Pence pretended the movie had so he could look Smart for once.

Who could have seen that coming?

though honestly I must admit, I'm still searching for the article Pence probably wrote accusing Joan of Arc of being a liberal time traveler sent back in time to trick people into thinking women could fight.

Though to be fair, as near as I can tell the only evidence Pence has that women cant fight is that they might have sex. I guess someone never told him "I'm a lover not a fighter" is a figure of speech and not an unalterable binary choice.

So yea, there you have it folks, a proper introduction to Mike Pence....and given how badly his running mate botched the VP announcement, likely the last proper introduction he's ever going to get.

The Impotency of Speaker Ryan

So earlier today, Speaker Paul Ryan met with Majority leader Kevin McCarthy and informed McCarthy that he is functionally impotent.

Now I dont mean Speaker Ryan told the Majority leader he couldnt get it up in the bedroom....I mean he informed McCarthy, that he cant get it up politically.

So perhaps you remember a few weeks ago after the orlando shooting, the  House Democrats staged a sit in on the floor of the US House, to demand a vote on a bill banning suspected terrorists from owning guns...a vote Speaker Ryan refuses to take.

Well Speaker Ryan is now talking about investigating those democrats to see if they broke any rules/laws and then punishing them.

Well I'm going to save the speaker a lot of time and money here and go ahead and reveal the results of the investigation: Yes they broke every single rule they could think of.......that was the fucking point.

So the layperson might not know this, but sitting on the floor of the capitol is an arrest-able offense. And its not an accident Democrats staged a Sit in on the floor, rather than bringing out chairs or doing a "Stand in".

Its also clearly against the rules to have electronic devices in the House Chamber.....and as soon as the Speaker turned the cameras off, the Dem's whipped out their electronics.

Then they ordered Pizza......incidentally food is also banned under house rules.

Oh and then they had Elizabeth Warren deliver donuts.....Warren of course being a US senator.....and therefore not allowed in the house unless invited by the Speaker. Other senators later joined her.

Then when Speaker Ryan finally turned the cameras back on to hold a vote on something else. Democrats starting Singing. By the way Singing in the capital is considered a sign of protest and an arrest-able offense.

Now all of these actions were undertaken intentionally by Democrats who were basically daring Ryan to come after them.

The Democrats believed (and I agree) that headlines reading "Speaker Ryan [insert punitive action] against Democrats who want to stop terrorists from getting guns" would be a fucking PR nightmare for the GOP.

Which is why Ryan did nothing at the time to stop it.

Which raises the question of what the fuck hes doing now.

Given that as it stands their is no question Dems broke the rules, an investigation is a best a waste of time and money.

At worst, it will find no actionable evidence of wrongdoing......meaning they would say Ryan cant do anything to stop that kind of protest from happening again. At which point Ryan might as well turn over his Gavel to Nancy Pelosi as he will had ceded functional control of the House the Democrats.

But even the best case is a disaster for Speaker Ryan.  Ok so the House investigation finds actionable wrongdoing (which they will)....congratulations Paul Ryan just turned a couple days of the "Speaker Ryan [insert punitive action] against Democrats who want to stop terrorists from getting guns" headlines that he would have gotten if hed taken immediate action into weeks or months of "Speaker Ryan investigating Democrats who want to stop terrorists from getting guns" only to wind up in exactly the same place hes at now.

Actually no, he might be in a slightly worse place.

First off, lets be honest, the Dems would use ever single second of testimony the would have to make to hammer Paul Ryan and the Republican party on being "pro allowing terrorists to have guns", adding to the already horrid PR nightmare for Republicans.

Also as far as America is concerned, this is an old news story that is currently dead......in short no one is watching right now, so the public wouldnt really notice or care if Ryan did nothing.....and should Democrats try this play again, Ryan could paint it as sabotaging the government/holding things hostage, just as the Dems have claimed the GOPs been doing for years.

But doing nothing doesnt work that way after all the time and money and headlines have gone into an investigation. Post investigation, post finding actionable wrong doing, deciding to do nothing about it is tantamount to a national admission of near permanent impotence, as it effectively announces that you can break any rule you want in the house at get away with it. At which point I suspect the House Republicans will find themselves voting on their 3rd speaker in 2 years.

But here's the thing....doing anything also ends badly for Speaker Ryan.

What ever he does results in a round of  "Speaker Ryan [insert punitive action] against Democrats who want to stop terrorists from getting guns"  following the extra ones created by the investigation.

Furthermore Ryan is taking about bringing in House sergeant-at-arms, Paul D. Irving, meaning he wants effectively a criminal investigation......and this creates an extra problem.

Ok so arresting nearly 40% of the House membership (and pretty much ALL of the minority party) would itself look pretty fucking bad as far as creating a PR nightmare the GOP might never get out from.

But it would actually be even worse as several members of the sit in were also Democratic Senators, [including at a minimum] Senators Mazie Hirono, Chuck Shumer, Elizabeth Warren, Barbara Boxer, Corey Booker, Ed Markey, Al Franken, Chris Murphy, Bernie Sanders, Bob Menendez, Sherrod Brown, Mark Warner, Patrick Leahy Senate Minority Whip Dick Durban and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid.

Now say what you will about Majority Leader McConnell, but for senate sovereignty and being an equal branch of government to the House reasons alone he would probibily refuse to let any actions carried out by the House Investigators to carry over into the senate.

He, or any other majority leader in Senate history or future, damn sure is not going to let ANY SPEAKER even his own parties march into his chamber and arrest 15% of his membership, including the minority leadership. Period end of conversation.

Meaning should Speaker Ryan decide to go this route, he's likely kicking off a pissing contest with his own party in the senate....one hes all but assured to lose.

And remember, all of this will be taking place under months of avoidable headlines about how House Republicans refuse vote to stop terrorists from getting weapons.

Its an irony really......Speaker Ryan was made impotent by the democrats when they staged their sit in.....but had he done what congress normally does (that being nothing) no body else would know about it.

Now out of vengeance for making him realize his impotent he's going to stop at nothing to make sure everyone knows how impotent he is, for there is not a single scenario left in which Paul Ryan, or even the Republican Party as a whole doesnt come out on the worst end of this should he actually lose his mind and go this route.